Jody & Julie Turner - Rock Goddess

For four years at the start of the 80s the New Wave of British Heavy Metal juggernaut thundered down the hard rock highway flattening everything in its path and snowballing into something wondrously magical and joyously subversive.

We don’t mean to sound like your Dad here, kids, but it’s just impossible to adequately describe to someone who wasn’t there just how raw, dangerous and liberating it was to be into metal as Thatcher’s Britain waved a blue-rinsed farewell to the sneering musical anarchy of punk and prepared to greet the wild abandon of hard rock done the UK way.

And if you were there and you took more than a passing interest in this new breed of noisemakers, then the London borough of Wandsworth would have doubtless popped up on your radar as the childhood stamping ground of two of the NWOBHM movement’s more notable bands in Girlschool and Rock Goddess.

Now, listen up. We’re not here to get into the gender politics of heavy metal. Fuck that shit. There’s no doubt that any female heavy metal band starting out in the early 80s probably found it more difficult than it should have been to climb the ladder of success. But that had nothing to do with ability, and everything to do with being part of a society that still thought It Ain’t Half Hot Mum was edgy comedy.

Anyway, unreconstructed they may be, but like all genuine rock fans the Sadmen have always believed that if you could play, and if what you played was - in the words of former heavy metal parishioner Ian Kilmister - good ‘n’ loud, then most people didn’t really gave much of a fuck whether you were Arthur or Martha or something in between.

And whether Girtlschool or Rock Goddess could play was never in doubt. The opening chords of their respective debut albums put that beyond any doubt.

Rock Goddess will need no introduction to most fans of the pod, but for those of more tender years than the Sadmen or those who managed to miss pretty much every copy of Sounds or Kerrang! magazines between 1982 and 1985, you have the unquestionable pleasure of being able to discover a band that was never happier than when in front of a Marshall stack.

And for the two thirds of the Enter Sadmen podcast who got to spend an hour or so chatting to two thirds of the band about their career - and, as importantly - to have them reveal their top 10 albums of all time, it was a chance to be just a little starstruck in the presence of two sisters who they had first seen 37 years previously at the London Dominion theatre on a co-headlining tour with Y&T.

How did we end up talking about Jody’s pipes? Why is Julie the queen of the click track? And what drink did the boys have to promise to bring with them when they catch up with the band on next year’s tour with Diamond Head?

You can listen to the interview in full using the player below and scroll down to discover the girls’ top 10 albums of all time!

You can also hear our review of Rock Goddess’ 1983 debut below - and find out where it ended up in the hallowed Hall of Fame


If you haven’t yet caught up with the latest latest album This Time, where the hell have you been? It’s not as though you’ve been going out anywhere. Do yourself a massive favour and check it out NOW on Spotify (it took us about four years to get past Two Wrongs Don’t Make a Right ‘cos Mark kept it on repeat)


Julie’s Top 10 Albums of All Time

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10. The Runaways - Live In Japan (1977)

“The Runaways were such an important part of how and why we started, and this shows that they were an amazing live band as well as a great studio band.”

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9. ABBA - The Album (1977)

“Bjorn and Benny are fantastic songwriters. I watched Mamma Mia 2 the other day and there’s a song at the end called My Love, My Life, and I absolutely sobbed.

“I could have picked Arrival - I could have picked any of them - but I got my vinyl out and I was 12 years old again. I know every inch of the cover, every song.”

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8. Y&T - Black Tiger (1982)

“I love this record. One of two by Y&T in my top 10 albums of all time.”

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7. Y&T - Earthshaker (1981)

“Another band we toured with and got to know really well. Everything about this album is perfect.”

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6. Def Leppard - Pyromania (1983)

“This is a double whammy for me because it’s a great album but it also brings back memories of being on the Rock Til We Drop tour with them when they were touring this album.”

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5. AC/DC - Back In Black (1980)

“Just an awesome album. Brian Johnson’s voice on this is amazing.”

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4. AC/DC - If You Want Blood … You’ve Got It (1978)

“This is obviously their live album. The first time we saw AC/DC was on Rock Goes to College*. Dad was there and he just said, ‘Watch this’ … and it was just instant love.”

(*Rock Goes to College - a TV show broadcast on BBC2 in the UK between 1978 and 1981 featuring live performances from bands playing university gigs. This episode, filmed at Essex Uni, aired on November 10, 1978.)

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3. The Runaways - Waitin’ For The Night (1977)

“This was a massive influence for us. Our father took us to see a soundcheck by The Runaways back in the day, in the Seventies. We were at the back just listening and it made such an impression on us.”

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2. Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin (1969)

“Every tune on this album is just excellent.”

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1. Black Sabbath - Never Say Die (1979)

“I basically picked all the albums that I still listen to now and that take me back to when I was a kid, and I put this on and just went ‘Oh my god, I love this so much!’ .”


Jody’s Top 10 Albums of All Time

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10. Slipknot - All Hope Is Gone (2008)

“I love them. I remember the first time I saw them live and the guy with the spiked head got me with his headbanging, and I thought, yeah, there’s a little bit of me in there.

“It’s a great album, but all of Slipknot’s albums are fantastic. The thing I love about them is that they’re really fucking heavy, and there’s grunting and whatever - but then there are wonderful melodies as well.”

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9. Thunder - Behind Closed Doors (1995)

“Danny’s [Bowes] voice is one of my favourite voices. The feel and emotion in it. And of course the songwriting of Luke [Morley]. Just brilliant songs with a brilliant vocal.”

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8. Mötley Crüe - Shout At The Devil (1983)

“Again, I think Ray Palmer gave me this album as well [as Bon Jovi, see below] and I was struck by the cover alone. I was like, wow - this looks cool. Really very different to anything I’d seen up to that point - I don’t know, maybe I was a bit behind the trends - and it was just full of great pop metal songs.”

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7. Bon Jovi - Bon Jovi (1984)

“Ray Palmer [celebrated Karrang! photographer who died in 2002] gave me this album and he just said: Listen to this. So I did, and oh my god … a fantastic album. Poppy, metal, great songs and obviously a really hot singer!”

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6. The Runaways - Waitin’ For The Night (1977)

“As Julie said, we could have chosen any of The Runaways’ albums, but I just remember sitting there as a teenager looking at the album cover of this one and thinking how much I loved them as a band. And Joan Jett was a particular influence for me, obviously.”

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5. KISS - Alive II (1977)

“I’m a massive KISS fan. I was a member of their fan club, although they always got my name wrong - I was always Judy.

“I had a mother who was so cool she let me put up a poster in the front room of Gene Simmons with blood just cascading down his face - which I found really attractive! I was quite young … [laughs]”

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4. Def Leppard - On Through The Night (1980)

“For On Through The Night and Iron Maiden I went down to the record shop every day to ask if it was in yet. There were no big record stores then, just little independents and you never knew exactly what day any album would actually be delivered to them.”

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3. Iron Maiden - Iron Maiden (1980)

“Ditto On Through The Night. I couldn’t wait to get to get my hands on this album. It was a massively big deal at the time.”

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2. Y&T - Earthshaker (1981)

“I saw Y&T at The Marquee and just fell in love with them. I bought this album and … I mean, his [Dave Meniketti’s] guitar playing has the power to make you cry. An awesome man.”

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1. Hughes/Thrall - Hughes/Thrall (1982)

“Hughes and Thrall was introduced to me by Kevin Riddles from Tytan and Angelwitch. I used to hang with Tytan in my late teens and early 20s and Kevin played it to me. I played it again last week and I had it on for five days straight. It’s a work of art. His voice …”

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